guides:modifications
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Modifications
Legal note: anything that lets the motor push a C5 faster than 15.5 mph, uses a motor rated above 250 W, or removes the pedals takes it outside the EAPC rules. It then becomes a motor vehicle for road-use purposes. See Legislation.
Battery and power wiring
- Modern batteries.
- Owners commonly replace the long-dead Oldham battery with a car or leisure battery.
- A LiFePO4 pack is a popular upgrade. A 12 V 20 Ah golf-trolley pack weighs about 2.5 kg against about 15 kg for lead-acid, and owners report much better acceleration and climbing. One reported about 7 miles of motor-heavy use from 20 Ah.
- C5Alive “QR” Quick-Release Power Wiring kit (v2, Feb 2006). This replaces the key-switch power block with:
- quick-release battery clamps;
- a relay;
- a replacement dual-pole light switch that switches both main power and the lights. The lights are therefore always on when the C5 is on, so fit LED bulbs.
Fitting outline:
- Remove the boot and the control box cover. Use 7 mm and 8 mm long-reach sockets on the two 7 mm and two 8 mm power nuts, and unplug the brown +12 V from X5.
- Swap the light switch, wiring it exactly as the guide shows. Wrong wiring damages the control box and pod.
- Run the new red/black leads through the seat grommet: red where brown went, black where blue went.
Don't drop nuts or washers into the control box.
- 3D-printed key-switch adapter (c5owners.com). This lets the original key switch sit on any battery using quick-release clamps. The original charger can still be used on a lead-acid car battery.
Simplified relay controls (John Wilson, c5owners.com)
Use this to get a C5 running when the pod or control box is dead or missing, or after a reverse-polarity disaster.
- 12 V twin-relay circuit:
- Use two 70 A automotive relays.
- The handlebar switch, through a 5 A fuse, energises relay 1, which energises relay 2, which switches the motor.
- Fit a 5 A diode across the circuit as shown, with the silver band towards relay pin 85.
- Use 6 mm² cable for the motor circuit. Cheap 100 A jump leads work, or reuse the original brown (= +) and blue (= −) leads.
- Keep the original orange-wire thermal switch in the circuit as the only motor protection, and add an 80 mm 12 V PC fan on the motor.
- Optionally add a kill switch and a key switch.
- Keeping the original lights, indicators and horn: feed 12 V to the original control-box terminals just inside its inspection cover. The box is already fused.
- Instrumentation: add a shunt with a combined volt/ammeter in a modified pod housing.
- Current guide: about 29–30 A on the flat; about 40 A climbing while pedalling; under 5 A means coast.
- Voltage guide: about 13.5–14.4 V full. Stop at 10.5 V. The voltage recovers to about 11.5 V after a rest, enough for a mile or two home.
- Optional extras: hazard-warning wiring with 5 A diodes, an LED-compatible flasher, and a relay-driven motorcycle or car horn.
- A 24 V version uses a 4QD Porter 10 speed controller.
24 V conversions
- 24 V conversions have been done since soon after launch. They make the C5 noticeably faster, so it is no longer an EAPC on the road.
- Usual approach: two 12 V batteries in series (one in each footwell), a PWM controller, a throttle in place of the push button, and a motor cooling fan. The original pod and control box are removed or bypassed.
- Controllers: the 4QD Uni-8, later discontinued; its replacement the 4QD Porter 10, rated 12–48 V; and others.
- Owners report 36 V is possible with good motor ventilation.
- The Sinclair designers' own notes (Unofficial Service Manual) on running the original electronics at 24 V:
- pod: R17 doubled to 94 kΩ and C12 uprated;
- control box: C2 uprated, a bigger heatsink on IC1, and a resistor in series with the relay coil.
- C5Alive 24 V kit (v2, Feb 2006). Instruction sheets W1–W6 and S1–S8, plus a cooling-fan bracket sheet:
- battery 1 positive goes through a relay (switched by the C5 light switch) to the controller +B and the fan;
- a link wire runs from battery 1 negative to battery 2 positive;
- battery 2 negative goes to controller B−;
- controller M+ and M− go to the motor brushes A and B;
- the throttle cable runs down the steering column.
Notes from the kit:
- The original thermistor (purple/grey) and thermal lock-out (orange) become redundant, so tie them back.
- The lighting circuit is lost with this kit.
- Some early “2-battery” C5s already have a square cut-out in the right-hand moulding for the second battery's wiring.
- Cooling fan: C5Alive's kit clamps a 12 V fan to the motor with 3–4 brackets and a jubilee clip, set diagonally to clear the seat. 3D-printed fan connectors for 90 mm and 120 mm fans are available from C5owners.
Gearbox and drivetrain upgrades
- Metal gearbox insert: an alloy insert with a toothed ring and the large bearing fitted. You reuse the original 3 cogs and posts. It was offered by “Sinclair C5 Chas” (about £65 in 2013) and used on 24 V machines.
- Reproduction plastic gearbox cogs: moulded or 3D-printed.
- Disc brakes: front and rear conversions are documented in forum threads.
- Wider or upgraded tyres: Schwalbe Big Apple or City Jet on the rear.
Electronics replacements (c5owners.com projects, now unsupported)
| Project | What it does |
|---|---|
| POD ULA replacement module | An Arduino Nano on an adapter PCB that plugs into the ULA socket. No other changes are needed and it's fully reversible. Right bar: battery gauge. Left bar becomes a motor temperature gauge (two green when cool; two red above 60 °C; tone and lock-out at 70 °C). Low-battery tone and lock-out. Motor-current display is not reproduced. |
| C5duino | An Arduino Nano control box. It monitors battery voltage, ambient and motor temperature, motor current and speed (via a reed switch). It runs a variable-speed fan, software flasher and hazards, mileage, a PIN lock, pedelec mode and “Smart Drive”. Lock-outs at 70 °C, below 10.0 V, and above 120 A sustained. V2 supports 24 V with a Uni-8. |
| C5 Touch / LCD touchscreen | A touchscreen dashboard (Arduino Mega) that talks to the C5duino over serial. |
| X-POD | A complete replacement pod and control box with a touchscreen. Shows time and date, a pedalling indicator and pedelec mode, motor state, battery volts and a 5-segment gauge, motor and ambient temperature graphs, speed, mileage and drive/pedal/coast charts. Controls lights and indicators, a PIN lock, a variable fan from 30 °C, and cut-out at 70 °C. 3D-printed case. |
| Pedelec mode | A reed switch on the crank, so the motor only runs while you pedal. Optional speed window. |
| Journey data logger, LED grid display | Smaller experiments. |
Firmware and PCB files were published on c5owners.com and its 3D-model download site.
3D-printed reproduction parts (C5owners STL library)
- Original-pattern parts:
- Hi-Viz mast caps; pod caps holder; pod washer;
- rear wheel centre caps;
- chain-tensioner chassis clip;
- light-switch bracket; handlebar switch bracket; handlebar grommet;
- boot clips; rear frame inserts;
- indicator template;
- motor heat-sensor holder;
- bulb access housing and top;
- toolkit cap;
- side-panel clips;
- wing-mirror brackets;
- battery stop bar.
- New designs:
- cooling-fan connectors for 90 mm, 90 mm extra-long and 120 mm fans;
- X-POD case and control box;
- mudflaps (X-POD style);
- a replacement boot lock;
- rear-brake bearing bracket;
- key-switch and battery adapter.
- If you sell prints, C5owners asks for credit in your listing.
Extreme builds
- Adam Harper's record C5s reached up to 150 mph, with 0–60 mph in about 5 s, and drove through a 70 ft tunnel of fire.
- Other owners have fitted jet engines, bigger wheels and high-powered motors. These are for track and private-land use only.
Sources
- c5owners.com: “Simplified Relay Controls” (John Wilson); projects pages (POD ULA Replacement, C5duino, X-POD, Pedelec Mode, 24V Conversion); 3D printing pages; forum threads 23, 31, 53, 271, 317.
- C5Alive.co.uk downloads: 24V kit instructions (v2, 06-02-06); QR Power Wiring Fitting Guide (v2, 24-02-06); cooling fan mounting instructions (v1.01, 30-9-05).
- The Unofficial Sinclair C5 Service Manual, “Application of C5 instrumentation system to other vehicles”.
- Twist & Go magazine, p. 50 (Adam Harper).
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