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Modifications

Legal note: anything that lets the motor push a C5 faster than 15.5 mph, uses a motor rated above 250 W, or removes the pedals takes it outside the EAPC rules. It then becomes a motor vehicle for road-use purposes. See Legislation.

Battery and power wiring

  • Modern batteries.
    • Owners commonly replace the long-dead Oldham battery with a car or leisure battery.
    • A LiFePO4 pack is a popular upgrade. A 12 V 20 Ah golf-trolley pack weighs about 2.5 kg against about 15 kg for lead-acid, and owners report much better acceleration and climbing. One reported about 7 miles of motor-heavy use from 20 Ah.
  • C5Alive “QR” Quick-Release Power Wiring kit (v2, Feb 2006). This replaces the key-switch power block with:
    • quick-release battery clamps;
    • a relay;
    • a replacement dual-pole light switch that switches both main power and the lights. The lights are therefore always on when the C5 is on, so fit LED bulbs.

Fitting outline:

  1. Remove the boot and the control box cover. Use 7 mm and 8 mm long-reach sockets on the two 7 mm and two 8 mm power nuts, and unplug the brown +12 V from X5.
  2. Swap the light switch, wiring it exactly as the guide shows. Wrong wiring damages the control box and pod.
  3. Run the new red/black leads through the seat grommet: red where brown went, black where blue went.

Don't drop nuts or washers into the control box.

  • 3D-printed key-switch adapter (c5owners.com). This lets the original key switch sit on any battery using quick-release clamps. The original charger can still be used on a lead-acid car battery.

Simplified relay controls (John Wilson, c5owners.com)

Use this to get a C5 running when the pod or control box is dead or missing, or after a reverse-polarity disaster.

  • 12 V twin-relay circuit:
    • Use two 70 A automotive relays.
    • The handlebar switch, through a 5 A fuse, energises relay 1, which energises relay 2, which switches the motor.
    • Fit a 5 A diode across the circuit as shown, with the silver band towards relay pin 85.
    • Use 6 mm² cable for the motor circuit. Cheap 100 A jump leads work, or reuse the original brown (= +) and blue (= −) leads.
    • Keep the original orange-wire thermal switch in the circuit as the only motor protection, and add an 80 mm 12 V PC fan on the motor.
    • Optionally add a kill switch and a key switch.
  • Keeping the original lights, indicators and horn: feed 12 V to the original control-box terminals just inside its inspection cover. The box is already fused.
  • Instrumentation: add a shunt with a combined volt/ammeter in a modified pod housing.
    • Current guide: about 29–30 A on the flat; about 40 A climbing while pedalling; under 5 A means coast.
    • Voltage guide: about 13.5–14.4 V full. Stop at 10.5 V. The voltage recovers to about 11.5 V after a rest, enough for a mile or two home.
  • Optional extras: hazard-warning wiring with 5 A diodes, an LED-compatible flasher, and a relay-driven motorcycle or car horn.
  • A 24 V version uses a 4QD Porter 10 speed controller.

24 V conversions

  • 24 V conversions have been done since soon after launch. They make the C5 noticeably faster, so it is no longer an EAPC on the road.
  • Usual approach: two 12 V batteries in series (one in each footwell), a PWM controller, a throttle in place of the push button, and a motor cooling fan. The original pod and control box are removed or bypassed.
    • Controllers: the 4QD Uni-8, later discontinued; its replacement the 4QD Porter 10, rated 12–48 V; and others.
    • Owners report 36 V is possible with good motor ventilation.
  • The Sinclair designers' own notes (Unofficial Service Manual) on running the original electronics at 24 V:
    • pod: R17 doubled to 94 kΩ and C12 uprated;
    • control box: C2 uprated, a bigger heatsink on IC1, and a resistor in series with the relay coil.
  • C5Alive 24 V kit (v2, Feb 2006). Instruction sheets W1–W6 and S1–S8, plus a cooling-fan bracket sheet:
    • battery 1 positive goes through a relay (switched by the C5 light switch) to the controller +B and the fan;
    • a link wire runs from battery 1 negative to battery 2 positive;
    • battery 2 negative goes to controller B−;
    • controller M+ and M− go to the motor brushes A and B;
    • the throttle cable runs down the steering column.

Notes from the kit:

  • The original thermistor (purple/grey) and thermal lock-out (orange) become redundant, so tie them back.
  • The lighting circuit is lost with this kit.
  • Some early “2-battery” C5s already have a square cut-out in the right-hand moulding for the second battery's wiring.
  • Cooling fan: C5Alive's kit clamps a 12 V fan to the motor with 3–4 brackets and a jubilee clip, set diagonally to clear the seat. 3D-printed fan connectors for 90 mm and 120 mm fans are available from C5owners.

Gearbox and drivetrain upgrades

  • Metal gearbox insert: an alloy insert with a toothed ring and the large bearing fitted. You reuse the original 3 cogs and posts. It was offered by “Sinclair C5 Chas” (about £65 in 2013) and used on 24 V machines.
  • Reproduction plastic gearbox cogs: moulded or 3D-printed.
  • Disc brakes: front and rear conversions are documented in forum threads.
  • Wider or upgraded tyres: Schwalbe Big Apple or City Jet on the rear.

Electronics replacements (c5owners.com projects, now unsupported)

Project What it does
POD ULA replacement module An Arduino Nano on an adapter PCB that plugs into the ULA socket. No other changes are needed and it's fully reversible. Right bar: battery gauge. Left bar becomes a motor temperature gauge (two green when cool; two red above 60 °C; tone and lock-out at 70 °C). Low-battery tone and lock-out. Motor-current display is not reproduced.
C5duino An Arduino Nano control box. It monitors battery voltage, ambient and motor temperature, motor current and speed (via a reed switch). It runs a variable-speed fan, software flasher and hazards, mileage, a PIN lock, pedelec mode and “Smart Drive”. Lock-outs at 70 °C, below 10.0 V, and above 120 A sustained. V2 supports 24 V with a Uni-8.
C5 Touch / LCD touchscreen A touchscreen dashboard (Arduino Mega) that talks to the C5duino over serial.
X-POD A complete replacement pod and control box with a touchscreen. Shows time and date, a pedalling indicator and pedelec mode, motor state, battery volts and a 5-segment gauge, motor and ambient temperature graphs, speed, mileage and drive/pedal/coast charts. Controls lights and indicators, a PIN lock, a variable fan from 30 °C, and cut-out at 70 °C. 3D-printed case.
Pedelec mode A reed switch on the crank, so the motor only runs while you pedal. Optional speed window.
Journey data logger, LED grid display Smaller experiments.

Firmware and PCB files were published on c5owners.com and its 3D-model download site.

3D-printed reproduction parts (C5owners STL library)

  • Original-pattern parts:
    • Hi-Viz mast caps; pod caps holder; pod washer;
    • rear wheel centre caps;
    • chain-tensioner chassis clip;
    • light-switch bracket; handlebar switch bracket; handlebar grommet;
    • boot clips; rear frame inserts;
    • indicator template;
    • motor heat-sensor holder;
    • bulb access housing and top;
    • toolkit cap;
    • side-panel clips;
    • wing-mirror brackets;
    • battery stop bar.
  • New designs:
    • cooling-fan connectors for 90 mm, 90 mm extra-long and 120 mm fans;
    • X-POD case and control box;
    • mudflaps (X-POD style);
    • a replacement boot lock;
    • rear-brake bearing bracket;
    • key-switch and battery adapter.
  • If you sell prints, C5owners asks for credit in your listing.

Extreme builds

  • Adam Harper's record C5s reached up to 150 mph, with 0–60 mph in about 5 s, and drove through a 70 ft tunnel of fire.
  • Other owners have fitted jet engines, bigger wheels and high-powered motors. These are for track and private-land use only.

Sources

  • c5owners.com: “Simplified Relay Controls” (John Wilson); projects pages (POD ULA Replacement, C5duino, X-POD, Pedelec Mode, 24V Conversion); 3D printing pages; forum threads 23, 31, 53, 271, 317.
  • C5Alive.co.uk downloads: 24V kit instructions (v2, 06-02-06); QR Power Wiring Fitting Guide (v2, 24-02-06); cooling fan mounting instructions (v1.01, 30-9-05).
  • The Unofficial Sinclair C5 Service Manual, “Application of C5 instrumentation system to other vehicles”.
  • Twist & Go magazine, p. 50 (Adam Harper).
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